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Wednesday, June 03, 2009

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Dan

Sorry I've been so absent from this excellent comment thread. I'm in a beach house with one bar on our 3G card, and the connection goes in and out without warning.

The idea of a content fee, which sits atop your ISP bill, is interesting... and the newspaper industry is aware of it. The problem? The only fair way to distribute it would be to spread out the pool to ALL sites, based on traffic, which means it's no big win for the newspaper sites.

At any rate, getting away from everything for a few days is good. Step back just a bit and you
begin to see how transformative the present really is. We're living in an age of logarithmic advances. I have to remind myself of this, over and over.

chano

I have little sympathy for the newspaper industry and most magazines for that matter. There are VERY few publications that truly serve their readers, rather than their self-interest, their proprietor's whims and of course the loathed advertiser.
When key issues of public information are concerned, such the Iraq War, common coverage of human suffering rather than the ongoing story of Jewish suffering, failure to cover so many topics at all for reasons of political or sponsorship expediency, spreading mis- and disinformation at will and so much more besides.
Newspapers and mags have mostly just become vehicles to suppress truth and earn ad revenues.
Why would anyone miss them. Like giving up smoking....It takes a while to understand the change when all the shit has gone and you don't miss it and things seem better somehow.
There is plenty of news around and it is better because it has not been filtered by all those 'professionals'. The web news phenomenon is still in its infancy. It will develop fast and it will regulate itself because the web is like that. Put out lies and crap and you are history. Forget who your true sponsor is and you are history.
And thankfully, there is greater hostility to advertising on the web than on TV, radio or print. Thank goodness for that.
I have a feeling you will not post this.

PeterJ

This is typical of the blogger rant against commercial news media. As if newspapers are going to stick a simple "buy your journalism here" button on their websites! I find the level of analysis on most blogs to be deplorably poor, based primarily on the ill-informed views of other bloggers - chinese whispers. So often, they deal with here-and-now interpretations of events, despite the self-righteous proclamations that they are visionaries. Mostly, bloggers are the kind of people who once stuffed multiple letters to the editor in the one envelope!
Typically, bloggers like yourself preach to an audience of converts and devotees - they tend to close their minds to the possibility that exponential change will also change their current online paradigm as well as generate completely new and unforeseen business models. These models will be developed. The alternative is the evolution of a peasant culture online where information is valueless, where everyone is a huckster, where everyone makes a few measly dollars, just enough to buy a coke and some pizza to power the next opinion. Unfortunately, you can't survive on opinions, but you can eat your own words.

Dan

With whom are you arguing, PeterJ? Because this is a shoeleather post, not a secondary interpretation of someone else's reporting. So are you arguing with this post, or are you arguing with "most bloggers?"

And if you're confused about my thoughts what types of content can be sold online or on the pace of developments in new business models, try following the hyperlinks in this post. If you wish, I can even give you the links specifically rather than asking you to pick them out of the context of the essay. The problem isn't that there aren't options, it's that none of the functional options match the product newspaper companies want to to sell.

You're lost and you're angry. If you'd like to get unlost, I'd be happy to help you get there. If you just want to argue with "most bloggers," the most satisfying way to do that is solely in your imagination.

Justin de la Cruz

Great post, great site, keep it coming.

profit lance

Well, I don't think that a tax to save newspaper would be a good idea.

People are free to choose and if they prefer to search the same information online, the should have the possibility to go online.

Anyway, newspaper are actually been overcame by online "journal" and they should do something different to come alive..

Johnny

Newspapers are old news. Nowadays we have the internet. Now don't get me wrong, newspapers can still be great for advertising. But with the internet, you can reach a much bigger audience.

Nice post ;)

james

Well I would have to agree but journalist have to make a living as well. Everyone is just doing there job.

james

What are you talking about "Journalist are incapable of critical thought" That is hwat journalist do. Please keep this in mind that there are people (journalsist) who are good at what they do and there are some that are not. It applies to anybody. TO make a statement that you had made is not a fair statement.

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