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Thursday, September 25, 2008


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so true, we are all faced with this evolve or die situation.

seth godin

This is great stuff, Dan.

Well said. Glad I read it.


You need to write a book. I linked to this because it is just plum awesome.


Great article. Lots to consider in this interregnum.

Pat Conover

First applause! Good work. Send it to Atlantic or Harpers, etc.

Second substance. There is a tension in this piece between "what is good" and "what works." A lot of good things don't work and a lot of things that work are not good.

Third opinion. Your core training from Shu is basically about the pursuit of truth and a willingness to grow and change as you gain knowledge and experience. That standard is being applied in many "blogs" and similar writings on the web, just not by professional journalists. Take Wikipedia for example. It has evolved and closely embraces Shu's standards. Sports chat is more interesting because the statistics are available and most major league stuff can be watched by the masses. I know as much about the Cleveland Indians as most sports reporters so my comments deserve respect.

Fourth parallel. Seems to me your key variable is perceived authority. That is in keeping with post-modernism. Parallel to journalists, professional ministers have lost a lot of authority, particularly in the highly literate white middle class progressive Protestant congregations because church members can and do read the Bible, theological, and ethical pieces for themselves. They can and do read learned commentaries and many are as prepared as seminary trained professionals to discuss nuanced issues such as pastoral care, Christian ethics in a political context, and the sources of meaning in life.

Fifth finally. A strong point of your article is the distinction between knowledgable and unknowledgeable readers. That can be unpacked further. I am knowledgable about the Cleveland Indians, current politics, and the philosophy of science. I am not knowledgable about state level politics, mortgage based derivatives, and the trade-offs between manned versus unmanned space exploration. I want access to contextual grounding where I am not knowledgable and, for that goal, I deeply appreciate Shu's journalistic standards. Where I am knowledgable I apply my own standards of truth, which often go way beyond what you get in a standard newspaper story. What I want there is challenging and probing discussion and that takes me into niche communicating, your high bandwidth point. So, in your terms, I see myself as a low bandwidth and a high bandwidth guy.

Will Rothschild

Fabulous stuff, DC. You captured the struggle and the friction I felt during my last few years in newspapers perfectly.



What a treat to miss this.

(And geez, thank God you are free to really write now).

Tom Lassiter

Excellent. Worthy of the Howell Hall bulletin board.


Only missing element, but much mentioned elsewhere: The role of media monopolies in homogenizing content and suppressing that which is 1) unprofitable and 2) dangerous to its corporate shareholders or image.

Suzanne Yada

This is why you're my favorite journalist.


Sharoney: That's the subject of Jay Rosen's most-linked PressThink post, and the No. 1 reason why journalism needs to have an academic discipline that includes enough theory to allow a "theory of the press" that can discuss Overton Windows, Manufacturing Consent, Deviance and Control, etc. A typical J-School education (and I got one) is just trade school for the news factories.

Suzanne: Thank you for making my week.

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